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Oct 2, 2016

John Ford and Anth are in the studio in a new weird timezone that it will be. Terri Allen joins us live from just near the water somewhere in SA to talk diving diving and more diving. Oliver Edwards from Goodfishbadfish joins us well to talk fish fish and fish. And Anth and John will spend some time looking at the kinds of trade-offs that occur when planning marine protected areas and what the science is behind these choices.